Okay, well if nobody has any issues with Lucian being against Oaken , I'm going to start writing Lucian's response and leave an offer at the end for Ren (or someone else if they mention it , to avoid an awkward situation where 3 people want to do a double battle...which I guess we could turn into  triple battle ,but semantics).

Edit: One of roleplays I'm in are actually using a Chatzy group to keep in touch when they're not online here, anyone else think this is a good idea? It keeps the OOC abit tidier as well.