Dervish I had read a lot of them but I just checked and saw some new stuff that I will have to read. I like what you said I will have to work on my plot and stuff I tend to be a whim person. As of having a lose plot and knowing the over all conlusion I want. I think of it as creating it self but interactions of other. I would love if you could look at my idea. --- Commander thanks I will have to keep that in mind. It's hard when you think some thing is good and then people discredit it.