[@Chrononaut] In my eyes, the two extremes of Freedom vs Order are Anarchy and Authoritarianism. With extreme freedom and no rules, no one has any real restrictions on them and thus only have morals to guild them and morals aren't always the most solid of walls to fall on, they tend to be quite flexible. With extreme Order, you get Authoritarianism. Everyone is given a role and knows the limits of their society and assuming they do nothing to provoke the anger of the state, they have no reason to really go after the state. Do I realize that there are some impossibilities with Order? Yes but I for one would still like to live under a society of extreme order than that of one with extreme freedom. If you couldn't tell, I'm one of those people with a very pessimistic outlook on human nature.