[quote=@Menhir]
[@Scio]
Issues where? It's important to list the issues in question when you're discussing issues. 

I mean I could also point you towards Mage: The Awakening, where physical law itself is actually fundamentally the same as magic and is the result of a shadowy cabal of wizards (the Technocratic Union) who have essentially tricked the entire world into playing by their rules but that's a lot of lore to sift through and it got really silly after a while for other reasons.

[@BassDropp]
See you say that but you have to remember this became an issue in the first place because people didn't want Sodium's character to enter using a helicopter. He was just trying to have fun in his own way, right? And then everyone kept trying to come up with reasons why he couldn't. Pretty much anyone gets prickly when they're being ganged up on like that.


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It's Mage: The Ascension; Mage: The Awakening has a different cosmology.