[quote=@Frettzo] Unless a certain Goddess realises his importance in keeping things together?????? And actually helps him not die or be terribly maimed???? A goddess whose name starts with A and ends with starte?? [/quote] ??? Who? Considering Vulamera is dead I think it must not be about who I'm thinking... I don't know if you are talking about Ilunabar or Niciel but I think both realize Logos should be around, even if they are particularly annoyed by his mindset. I mean, in my case at least, it was one of the reasons why Ilunabar didn't want to get involved in Lif's quest as I think she mentions something along the lines of "defeat is scary but the responsibility of victory is too much, so I'd rather distance myself"