[quote=mdk] I only ever swam in summer leagues, where 50m fly was a thing, but I was *awesome* for 50 meters. Freestyle was under 23, fly was like 23.3, back was 24.low, who remembers. Once I had to swim more than 50 I was dead in the water, but over a short enough distance I could beat just about anyone. [/quote] Wanna race a 500? :D