[quote=@The 42nd Gecko]
[@TheWindel] Chen's used his a ton, and had other people fight him with a relic, and it seemed strong but not "legendary". It still seemed General level at best. Maybe they just haven't gotten a chance to show their full potential, but I still personally, seeing the effect they've had on the plot, feel that Alex is being completely reasonable.
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I'd like to say that Chen definitely hasn't used his to it's fullest potential. Chen basically used it's active effect only, which allows him to make other things generate, like plants for example. The passive effects are ridiculous though, allowing him to tank most hits due to his extreme regeneration, nearly unlimited mana due to his extreme man regeneration, you can't beat him in a battle of attrition because he's regenerating stamina too fast, he would be absolute hell to fight if he knew what it does. But he doesn't, he thinks he can control plants and that's it.