[quote=@KoL] Well, you guys remember that the actual part of the forging process is gonna be handwaved for the benefit of those who don't know much metallurgy, thus it's wrote obvious that a blacksmithing school will have forged for general use (maybe even individual ones for the top students /groups), it's one of those things you can just assume that you will have access to from the very premise. [/quote] Why are you so adamant about minutiae in regards to the smithing posts when earlier you repeated the GM's declaration that this sort of minutiae involving the crafting process is to be handwaved for the benefit of the people who aren't educated in how the process works? Dude I think you're taking the competitive aspect of this game too seriously. We're only pretending to compete and with the lack of any real imput into the process for player skill and the handwavey nature of the process makes it just pointless to treat it seriously. The only tangible thing the players have is the post and time limit. Everything else is just pure fiat essentially. Also as an aside regarding the quibble over the setting. Is it medieval? I thought the gm said it was industrial revolution which mixed with magical stuff like turning monster bones and spleens into functional weapons, and with that in the setting it's not that big of a stretch to have things like bottlecaps or coolers existing. I mean if people from thousands of years ago living in the desert in our world can make a system for ice transportation, then shoving something like a chunk of ice into a box seems pretty low key. But honestly it's that important for me arguing over whether these background props exist or not.