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I assume you tried for Cleo and got zilch?
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Spent quite a lot for both JAlter and Cleo and got zilch, while previously trying to get Medb in two of her rateups and failing, so yep.

Anyway, what is the ruling for Double Summon here (something like Semiramis)? Somewhat considered to do a non-Nasuverse canon servant, and I have a servant idea that might have something similar to it due to context.