[quote=@Lucius Cypher][hider]And what makes you think she was being tested at Beacon at all? Firstly, she was never enrolled at Beacon, she was only there to participate in Vale's tournament. At best this is testing her capability as a combat android, if not also being used for an ulterior political motive. And it's still vague as to what she was being tested for, if she was being tested at all. Nothing in the show or supplement materials suggest that she wasn't a finished product, nor a prototype of any sort. And it's that vague idea of a robot capable of using Aura that I created Gren from.[/hider][/quote]

My mistake she wasn't enrolled at Beacon but the point of her being in Vytal Festival would have to be the same. You can test combat capabilities in the lab, even bring in hunters of a greater caliber than those found at the academies to test her against. What you can't replicate in the lab is human societal interaction beyond a basic level. She would have to be immersed in the real world for that purpose. But the real reason to assume that she is a prototype is that Beacon is still functioning at all. Penny is the equal of any hunter and requires far less time to be prepared for combat. She would make huntsmen obsolete as well as saving the lives of those that would normally have to combat the Grimm. The fact that her model hasn't replaced hunters and that Atlus is still developing other humanesque military tech such as the police like androids and the paladins suggests that she is at least for the moment one of a kind.

[quote=@Lucius Cypher][hider]And if you're saying that objects can't be powered by Aura, then you're also contradicting anothering thing you told Ryo a long time ago when you were arguing about how Ebon is controlling his R-Types. You said that he could use a device that interacts with one's aura, so I imagine that Gren is working off a similar devise, only his aura interacts with said device to power his entire body as oppose to remote drones. You can't just retract that statement now just because Ebon isn't in play anymore.[/hider][/quote]

For the last time Ebon's drones were not [i]powered[/i] by his aura. He had telekinesis which he literally used to hold the drones up in the air. On X-Men you wouldn't say the jeeps Magneto was throwing at the military were powered by his X-gene. It's the same thing. The drones had no interaction with Ebon's aura, they were being suspended in the air by his semblance.

[quote=@Lucius Cypher][hider]Also just because it's powered by aura doesn't mean suddenly everything else is obsolete. Because as I said, what Gren uses merely uses Aura, it cannot produce aura on it's own. While it can take aura as a power source, that doesn't mean suddenly all other forms of energy is useless because there is a price to use aura powered machines, and that price is that it needs a person to power it. Gren's machine can be powered by himself since he only needs it to power his body, but you can't use one person to replace an entire power plant meant for a city. Unless you're going to start using people as human batteries, aura powered machines on a large scale is impractical and possibly inhumane. It's not as if you can just take aura in a raw form and exchange it with others, not unless you have the same machine that powers Penny. Which while is still a mystery to us, we can be certain that it's not common place and Atlus may be the only ones who have access to such a thing.[/hider][/quote]

You stated that he had machines that could amplify his aura and be powered by it. That is a loop creating an infinite amount of energy and while yes it would require someone to work as a human battery there is a very simple way to get someone to agree to that. You take all of the money meant to go into procuring and refining the dust required for a large scale power plant, you offer them half of it. They make a shit load of money and you double your profits, basic economics. Even if the tech would leave them scared for life there are most definitely people in situations bad enough or desperate enough to accept such an offer.

[quote=@Lucius Cypher][hider]And it all returns back to what I keep saying: Gren, despite all his bells and whistles, is a fairly lowtech version of what Penny is. She is a machine that can produce her own aura, as well as other additional abilities including strength that could match Gren (He could probably stop a truck too if he saw it coming) or even greater (Gren likely can't pull down [url=http://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/Bullhead]Bullheads[/url] even if he had a hold on them. Shoot them out of the air, sure, but he can't do [url=https://youtu.be/WLZq4hvs_30?t=154]this[/url].), all while being much, much smaller then Gren, meaning that she's achieving the same level of power Gren can muster but with far less tech to accomplish it. As I said before, the only real benefit Gren's cybernetic body grants him is the ability to carry heavier armor and weapons. His thrusters were not an original part of his body, which he only added after earning enough credits in this RP to pursue that upgrade. And that is specifically not powered by aura, but a biofuel he has to make himself.[/hider][/quote]

Which comes back to my original argument of Gren's tech being way older than Penny's extremely innovative ability to create an artificial aura. You can't just make a piece of technology larger to show it is an older model. Penny's tech shouldn't have existed at the point in time that Gren got his upgrades and if it did should be available to basically anyone by present day.

[quote=@Lucius Cypher][hider]And if you're questioning why he would use something he doesn't understand, you could say the same about using cars. If my car breaks down I have no idea how to fix it myself, and I'd have to take it to a professional. Someone does, just not me, and as long as it doesn't breakdown I can continue to use it to the best of my abilities, and overtime figure out how to work out any errors short of total destruction. In the same respect, Gren's body is like a car. He knows how to drive it, and has a workable knowledge to improve and repair some of it. But if he fucks up so badly that he breaks something very critical, he's going to need professional help. And unfortunately for him, the only people who would likely know how to fix him are either the White Fang, who stole the technology he's made from, or Atlus, from whom the technology was stolen from in the first place. And it's all the more reason why he continues to layer armor and aura over himself to minimize the damage done to himself, as well as trying to improve his mobility to avoid damage all together.[/hider][/quote]

Well I wasn't until you said that but while on the subject that analogy is kind of poor as you won't die if your car fails to start. You will die if your mechanical heart gives out. At the very least you'd think he'd have a specialist to look him over every so often to make sure the parts of him that he doesn't understand are still working. But I'm not starting that argument.

My point which I think is becoming somewhat distorted is that because of his cybernetics his aura would have to extend from his remaining organic tissue leading to an overall decrease in protective ability and an increased strain on Gren while he is using it in that capacity.

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Can I have some?