[quote=@Gowi] It’s called a discussion. I did not “jump” on Pyro, I simply stated a counterpoint to expand on why I disagree. When you argue your point, your perspective is to pick out central points you have a counterpoint to. Your overt stance of defending someone is admirable, but ultimately misplaced as no misconduct or offense was meant or stated. [/quote] [quote=@ClocktowerEchos] that is really fucking materialistic [/quote] Personal attack [quote=@ClocktowerEchos] I am willing to bet on my life that no matter how awesome a sword you loose, the lose of a friend or your own life, knowing you/they can never come back, is always going to be much greater. Unless you're a self centered asshole. [/quote] Tl;Dr, if you disagree on permadeath, you're a "self centred asshole". Pyro was simply bouncing ideas and was very casual about it. This (^) should not have been posted. I've debated for nearly 5 years and that wasn't a debate. That was, as Thecrash put it, a passive aggressive tone created to hamper argument. You, Gowi, were quite civil but Clockles, you were not. This isn't a personal attack. It shouldn't be taken as such. Pyro acted very level-headed and you prevented them from having a further argument by using a bout of vitriol. Just because an idea is yours doesn't make it in anyway superior and you shouldn't lash out at others for having an opposing view. The GM will have the ultimate decision so further debate isn't necessary. I didn't post this to start a fight, I posted this in support of Pyro who's probably feeling very put-out right now. Can we just get on with things now please? [img]http://bestanimations.com/Animals/Mammals/Cats/catgif/funny-cat-gif-3.gif[/img]