[@PKMNB0Y] I meant to ask you btw, is Kintoki's A+ Strength score meant to represent him before or after Mad Enhancement, Natural Body and Monstrous Strength have been factored? Also how do they stack with each other? I am guessing that its after Natural Body, but before Mad Enhancement or Monstrous Strength, which would then stack with each other as they were activated, resulting in a Servant whose strength is off the Servant scale, comparable to Hercules or a Phantasmal Beast.