[@Raddum] I don't know if we want to keep up this 'put our responses in hiders' thing, but I'll do it again and let you decide to do it or not depending on whether you've got responses to give after that. [hider=Response about the Warrior of Chaos] [quote=Raddum] It's because of the cycle, yes. I figured it'd give a mildly interesting what-if look at Zidane; If he'd never been helped by Garnet and the rest of the party, he could have done some terrible things to the planet. This isn't exactly that Zidane, but he's mostly on an "Angel of Death" mindset; Until his rebel and heart-of-gold personality kicks into overdrive because of how much fun he'll have messing with the Warriors of Cosmos. (Not to mention trying to bag Terra. Perverted Zidane is still very much a thing.)[/quote] 'What if' concepts are always interesting so long as they remain in character, which makes sense in this case due to how unstable Zidane was before his friends pretty much snapped him out of himself. I've been planning on playing with the idea of romance with Terra - whether or not any of the characters present do or don't end up becoming the object of her affections is another story entirely - since it was actually a plot element that was explored frequently with Terra in the game, what with her trying to understand love and asking people about it, feeling it inappropriate for her (due to not being 'normal') until it finally cultivated in her acceptance of the concept and building up enough courage to express it (as illustrated in my opening quote for her in the CS). Having someone flirt with her just allows me to explore that more. [quote=Raddum] Yeah, I know it's a bit more of a stretch; Giving Edgar is the only individual to ever actually attempt flirting with Terra however, I felt like the connection could be made. While not as of his point in time, Zidane also becomes a king; But physically he more resembles Gau, especially with how jumpy he tends to be. Not that any actual comparison between them could be made, but it's still something to note, I guess? As far as Terra reminding him of Garnet goes, I'm glad you agree. She might not have as much spine as Garnet does, but a lot of Terra's personality fits into Garnet's pretty well; It'll be fun to have.[/quote] Nothing much to say here, and we're basically in agreement. [quote=Raddum] Oh, yes. I didn't mean to imply he wasn't able to be swayed; It's just for the most part he isn't going to truly care about the information they have to share if it isn't Terra-related. He won't go into some circling quest of 'trying to figure out who he is' with Mateus, is more of what I meant. He'd rather get Terra to explain it to him (Even though she literally can't) or find out for himself. I feel like having Kuja could be interesting as well; Having the 'brothers' on the same team would be interesting; A lot could be done there. Depending on how Kuja manipulates their relationship it could lead to a lot of conflicting feelings for Zidane; Side with 'family', or protect Terra, who Zidane's feelings for Garnet are being projected onto? It's much too early to tell what'd happen, if it even happens at all, considering you have to decide on Kuja. I'd be fine with or without, it's completely up to you.[/quote] I think I understand the whole circling quest comment, but feel free to clarify if you want to avoid possible misconceptions. As for the whole concept of them manipulating him through information about Terra, I probably should ask you to be more specific about what memories or information he [i]does[/i] have. Is it just that the name 'Terra' is significant to him, or is there more information? At any rate, I agree with you about the idea of Zidane projecting since it makes a lot of sense and works well. I was imagining Terra projecting a little onto people as well. My biggest reservations with bringing over Kuja stemmed from a lack of counterbalance character (Freya is sort of someone he's indifferent towards) and also due to concerns that my ideas for him would be too similar to what The Emperor will end up doing, so this does open the door for me to be interesting if I get the inspiration for it. You've brought up some of what I could do with it, assuming I find a timeline version of Kuja I want to roll with.[/hider] [quote=@Gohan] Well yeah, ideally I wanted everyone and Kain to have their memories gone like in Dissidia. I guess parallel universes it is then. [/quote] I think there's two major issues with following too closely with how Dissidia handled things. Firstly, from a role-play perspective I think being too heavily tied down to Dissidia's premise could actually significantly stifle creativity, which would subsequently make the role-play less interesting for everyone. Dissidia has more or less done everything it could explore with its concepts already, which is probably why the new Dissidia game is a reboot (to the best of my knowledge, Cosmos and Chaos aren't even a part of it yet and whatever plot the PS4 version has could have nothing to do with the rest of the series). I always thought one of the best ideas about Dissidia was that it allowed characters and concepts from the various worlds to be played around with due to coming in contact with each other, but sadly they didn't seem to take enough advantage of that in the games. The Final Fantasy series has always had a multiverse (which is why I believe all my ideas are within the boundaries of the franchise's lore), with the fact that the Gilgamesh in every game so far is the [i]same[/i] Gilgamesh each time being one example of this, so Dissidia seemed like the ideal place to explore that. The reason I decided to register The Emperor first was to confirm how on board you were with interesting and creative ways of playing with the premise of Dissidia, to figure out how likely this role-play would be to continually hold my interest. All the characters I've registered so far (including Terra, who was more likely to show up than anyone else from FFVI despite me thinking [@Ailyn Evensen] would get more from role-playing her than I would -- not that I don't really like Terra, since I do, but my fiancé's personality is more in sync with her) - excluding Exdeath (who I had the idea of using, but didn't plan to use without a counterbalance character) - were planned to come over pretty much from the moment I decided to get involved. I went with The Emperor first to gauge how you felt about all of this. Secondly, I'm actually rather sceptical about the notion that all the characters in the Dissidia series had lost their memories in the first place. Some of them, for sure, but there's a lot of contradictions and even paradoxes in those games. For example, virtually all of the villains have access to their 'godly' powers through the use of 'EX Mode', despite canonically most of them not having those powers until late into their games and subsequently implying these versions of them are from late into their timelines, or that these versions are completely different to the game incarnations. Cecil and Golbez realize they're brothers; in fact, Golbez knowing Cecil is his brother is the entire reason he's not loyal to Chaos right from the beginning of the cycles presented in the games. The Emperor is stated to have been just 'a random soldier' throughout all cycles up until Duodecim, and then he basically got sick of being manipulated by Chaos (probably a hint about him being sick of just existing as Satan's puppet) and he started plotting to take over. It fits his character, but the backstory is inconsistent with the game timeline and doesn't simply seem to be a case of amnesia. These are just a few examples, of course. If you want Kain to not have his memories, I don't see a problem with that since a lot of my characters (heroes in particular) have lost some of their memories. This could still be the same Kain from the universe my Cecil is from, but he simply doesn't remember the things that took place in the game before the cycle pulled them here. Edit: I rushed my post, since I'd only just got back from shopping, so check the modifications.