[quote=@The 42nd Gecko] [@Lonewolf685] Yes, but unless we're keeping an arbitrary score of who won "battles" (which I totally wouldn't put past joker-man), the Angels enjoyed none of the actual fruits of their victory for the continuation of the war. [/quote] We are counting the victor of battles. Just because they lost the spoils doesn't mean they didn't win in the first place. Even if what they had was wasted, it still deprived their enemies of the chance to use those resources properly in the first place.