[quote=@Bright_Ops] [@Dark Light] That doesn't exactly change the fact that from the nihilist point of view, all the idiot just did was throw water on them for some reason and expecting some kind of response... [/quote] Your argument says I could throw tap water on a vampire and as long as I make him believe it was blessed, it burns him to death. The vampires belief is irrelevant. That water is imbued with power when a God fearing priest uses the collective belief of millions and millions of people.