[quote=@Lucius Cypher] Neither Dora or Fran would be able to dodge or avoid the force push or wall spear. Dying from it in the other hand is a different matter. Dora I can see surviving the spikes, what with just being an astral projection and all. Fran is just getting by on libido alone. [/quote] Don't forget Zeruel is attacking her. Also, she rode in on a missile.