[quote=@souleaterfan320] Kyen: whilst that may be true, it bothers me, since I've been taught to apreciate things and be careful, ocassional slip-ups like this happen, but for the most part, I've never rippped a punching bag, never even hurt anyone, well, since that day... [/quote] Thing is, as a fighter, you usually don't want to be gentle. Being gentle doesn't make you better.