[quote=@catchamber] Can you provide sources for this claim? As far as I know, no such society has ever existed in human history, so it seems like you're just speculating. [/quote] See: The Middle East, terrorism, extremism, Russia, VHEMT Also a society with higher productivity will likely have higher populations to sustain. Not to mention all the species an hypothetical future world with gene modding will in cosmic terms develop in half a eye blink. As for your own ideas on a vertical farm have you considered that some of the peices you mention may cost lots of money? Like you speak about all the solar panels and shit but you got to consider the material cost of these things. And you must recall how civilization as a complex system is prone to disruptions so even if you have so many damn resources you can build the 21st century equivalent of a pyramid there may still be troubles at some other point in time. Even the galaxy has resource scarcity and the talk of resource scarcity is built on the premise that populations won't be higher, that the system is incorruptible, that no disruptions ever will happen, that AIs can't make mistakes, that energy and power will always be there, that cosmic events like solar flares (which are common) won't cause any problems, that on a smaller scale the various conditions of various planets won't cause problems, that differences over time won't cause damaging effects, that ideologies don't cause irrational behavior, that rationality and reason will somehow be valued more hair because it is the future, that this sort of Utopianism is somehow different from the Utopianism from a century earlier, that future technologies won't introduce new problems along with the benefits (when they clearly will), that Murphy's law magically goes away and so on. Not that any of this is a problem, since if it really did make some utopia I'd be soul crushingly boring. Of course I'd still prefer to live in the future instead of now since even with new problems (be it designer plagued, the moral pandora's box of genetic modification etc.) as I would not want to live in the 19th century where as a kid in even the most advanced country you labored in coal mines and shit.