[quote=@KOgaming]
Neither of those cards have to do with monsters being face-up or the battle phase though.
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Edited it several times for better examples soon after posting and now I don't know what you're referring to.

In any case, my point for Menhir was that Crush Card Virus doesn't need a face-up tribute, nor to be activated during the damage step to respond to an attack.