[quote=@Garattee] I hate the fact that the alt right has no real definitions, its impossible to sum up what the actually believe which makes them impossible to criticize or defend. [/quote] I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding the alt right. They're not an organized group. There is no leadership called 'the alt right' and there is no 'alt right political party' or political leaders that associate with the alt right (and those that do, are most likely pandering, because if you call yourself an alt right person you're immediately out with 3 strikes.) There is no organized set of believes and rules for what they should believe in, contrary to say, feminism or libertarianism, who do have more clearly definable traits and beliefs. They don't have a mold, so to speak. So yes what you are saying is absolutely right. It's not really a criticism though. All we can really say is that the alt right is, perhaps, anti-established order. But that might change. And if you look at the 'real' alt right (i.e. the people in the background/the founders) then they're more often than not not even politically motivated. They just want some kek's. I mean, really, you're talking about the same people that made the world believe that 'trash dove' was a sign of white supremacy and who managed to make Pepe frog a recognized hate symbol. They're professional shitposters. The fact that you're trying to take them seriously is already strange to me. Now... #freeKekistan