[@6slyboy6] Basically they are from the Milky Way. A planet that was Catchatan-level stuff. They were originally human but slowly morphed into reddish versions. Joined a badass military cult, got demoted due to some Imperial noble screwing them over. Their leader of the Order said 'distrust some, not all fat-cats'. Several unknown years later - the Order leaders think all Empire bad. But Emprah is good. It's like same God, different views policy. And yes, it's still the Immortal Emperor.