[quote=@TwelveOf8] [@Hylozoist] I'm way too comfused to reply in a meaningful way to your confusion. [/quote] I feel like we've exhausted the possibilities of what could be called "linear confusion", where each of us are confused in turn and there's a discernible line from the initial confusion to our current stage of confusion. Perhaps it's time to consider something more like fractal confusion, where we can get lost in infinite layers of recursive confusion, so that even a step back renders us just as confused as a step forwards.