Ben sits on the roof of the building, absentmindedly wiping his bloody hands on the concrete. He thinks for a moment before looking Jack in the eye and asking, "What makes more sense, treating the symptoms of cancer or trying to cure the cancer?"

John brings his own leg upward slightly, allowing his lower leg to take the force of the kick instead of his knee. He nods and says, "Good thinking. When you're fighting someone that's built like me, shots to the torso aren't particularly effective, but going for the joints, groin, and neck are a very good idea. Now do your best to strangle me and remember, if I tap you or the floor with my hand twice, that means to let go."

(I can't remember if Estella ever responded to Anthony's thank you.)