[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] Mass Effect 2 is fun filler with a witty script and a thrilling-ish final mission a 'great' game does not make.[quote] I didn't say Mass Effect 2. I said "There has been one great Mass Effect game". I stand by that. [quote]Maybe 20 seconds wasnt convincing enough. [hider=Its not mass effect 3's ending so its a good game.....right?] [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-msmx9yW5Q[/youtube] [/hider] [/quote] No no, I've seen the meme videos and everything and I still think the game isn't a dumpster fire of a disaster of a travesty because it's not Witcher 3 or whatever it is the popular gaming culture subreddits and boards cream the jeans over while spouting off about cuckoldry. Andromeda is on par with what BioWare has been putting out since, oh, Dragon Age 2. Except the shooty shooty bits are an improvement. When a new team comes together and deals with leavings and layoffs and the collective pressure of people that put 10/7/5 year old games they put on pedestals breathing down their necks well here we are. That people are being all "7/10 WORST EVER" speaks to why gamers are the worst people with the worst hobby. [quote]And apart from being asleep for 600 years I'm pretty sure shepard was a 20 something with the universe on his/her shoulders, managed to have conversations that didnt seem to be lifted out of an early episode of Stargate SG1[/quote] Ryder is not Shepard and Shepard also had his share of lines that weren't exactly Shakespeare. Shepard was never exactly the most fleshed out character until they tried to make him more human in ME3 to disastrous results. He was effectively a blank slate for the player with only the briefest of personal histories that didn't really impact anything outside of incidental dialog. Ryder is a far more realized character, both Scott and Sara have different backgrounds and pasts that relate them back to the Initiative and their dad. Their dad is effectively Shepard. Ryder, in contrast to Shepard, is not a blank slate. Shepard was a badass military man even before he was a Spectre. Scott was just a grunt man stationed at an outpost watching others do better in the military than him. Sara was pretty much a geek that did Prothean archaeological digs with her team. Sara's literally like ME1 Liara in that she's a nerdy awkward person. Only Liara never had the pressures of lives depending on her in the same way Ryder does. Both have parent issues. Both are awkward around the people they want to bone. Not everyone in the galaxy has the monotone charisma of Shepard.