[quote=@Vilageidiotx] First and foremost I didn't invent the word racism, i'm just using it correctly. The reason why we jump the gun on public racism, like I said way earlier, is because there is a public taboo against it. The reason for that taboo is that if we accepted all the JonTron type opinions with no controversy, his opinion might become acceptable and start to drive public policy, which could mean state violence against minorities. Also, your alternative description for tribalism is tribalism. You wrap your idea of yourself in the group you belong to. I didn't mean that group literally was a tribe you belong to. Not everyone identifies with their race, so that might not be your tribal affiliation. [/quote] Never said you did, but looking at the actual definition of the word according to the dictionary, if everyone was racist it would mean everyone thinks that some race is superior over another's. My point is the word itself is poorly defined and it shouldn't be taboo if literally everyone is, because taboo definition is: prohibiting or forbidding discussion of a particular practice or forbidding association with a particular person, place, or thing. And why would it be "taboo?" if everyone already was and can never not be racist. Also I think the idea of "If people don't criticize him for overall non-violent remarks" (that may be poorly worded/in bad taste) This will somehow normalize "it's okay to hurt minorities." That's a [b]slight[/b] logical jump. It just seems very silly and meaningless then, if you will excuse certain people in different "tribes" for having different opinions. So that's basically arguing (i think...) Why certain people try to label people 'hating their own race' (and why that [b]somehow[/b] makes sense?) Correct me if you believe otherwise... But, there's no way for someone to grow up multi-cultured communities, consider them their family/or be their family and not be racist at all? I think all of this focus on race, instead of it being purely coincidental is a problem. We are really getting farther from the idea that "don't see/judge a man based on the color of their skin but by the content of their character" than ever before...[url=https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/03/school-loses-funding-white/]So shit like this happens...[/url] [quote=@Vilageidiotx] Trespassing assumes we are talking about property specifically. The illegality isn't "Trespassing", it's a lack of documentation or vetting. What we can discuss is whether or not it is more practical to hunt down illegal immigrants and drive them out, or to allow them a way to get the necessary documentation while living here. I think both sides of the debate have good points, but I think it is a little tragic to say "They broke the law lol no debate is allowed" And the reason why illegal immigration gets turned into a general immigration debate is because most arguments against illegal immigration have been made about immigration in general. Both sides of the debate do this. [/quote] I don't think either side really knows what their doing with immigration. But we've already seen what mass immigration is doing in Europe, it's absolutely foolish to think it wouldn't cause the same problems over here. We already have a legal immigration process, and a lot of legal immigrants actually strongly support those rules and that they should be followed. I think the real argument that should be taking place, like our god awful tax system in place. Should we simplify and make it easier and how would we do so? Trying to discuss if we just ignore law breakers and actually push them in the front of line, for jobs or welfare. When plenty of legal citizens need help, is absurd. And I know that this is politically incorrect to point out but, [url=http://www.heritage.org/immigration/report/the-fiscal-cost-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-the-us-taxpayer]As nice as it sounds, to help all the nice women and children and give them everything we can. Sometimes, reality sets in that [b]A LOT[/b] of money is being spent.[/url] And America *technically* already DOES have more immigrants coming into our country than everywhere else on the planet. [s]Yes, when inflated/lowered by population the overall percentile isn't number one, but does the fact that new zealand accepts 200% more immigrants (factoring in their tiny population) really matter when that actual number of their entire population is less than the amount of immigrants we have? I don't think this counter makes too much of a difference.[/s] I just think the stereotype that America is somehow against LEGAL immigration, from numbskulls from other countries like Trudeau trying to insinuate that, when we have less restrictive policies than they do. [quote=@Vilageidiotx] Anarcho-Socialists go back to the 19th century and arguably predates Marxism, and the cultural Jew (Jewish Atheist) is an old time standard. Those things aren't that weird tbh, them dang-darn millenials didn't invent those. Though you're right on the gender labels, I have a beef with most of those. As for the above article, doesn't that basically explain everybody honestly? My grandma thinks private healthcare is socialism and Trump needs to do the capitalist thing and get rid of it. People have goofy ideas of what politics is regardless of age. But yeh, I suppose there are probably Post-Modern communists, since a lot of people seem to think "Communism is when the government gives you stuff", and that idea alone could be mashed in with post-modernism. [/quote] Nah, That's the quote for what most people who like socialism thinks that's what it means. :D (kind of 60/40 percent kidding.) I was just pointing out some examples. My point was, they don't even know what that means, but they'll call themselves that anyway. Sure, people not understanding what political parties stand for isn't a recent idea. But seriously, millennials invented plenty of horseshit. And I think denying it doesn't do the political left (or right) any favors. xP (and yes not the only generation to have their freak outs) But I do think it's the only generation, so many have actually taken it seriously. To the point so many now don't take anything seriously... And both sides of the political coin have become so cancerous, that it's pretty obnoxious when most discussions like this come up. [s](seriously the fucking frog meme's aren't funny. Staph!)[/s] So, it's hard for me to ever believe people are bringing up "genuine concern" about individuals from a political opposition and aren't just looking for someone to beat up with sticks. And since I brought up toxicity in online/offline discussion, I will point out that you're very good at not doing that. Which is commendable that you engage others in a respectful manner. (A sadly rare trait to have nowadays.) So here's a "Be an adult on the internet award." [hider=Trust me. Everyone enjoys someone who can articulate without using ad-hominems every sentence.] [img]http://i.imgur.com/Vhh9p3I.png[/img] <- Even a cat. [/hider]