[quote=@SleepingSilence] And yes Kayne has said so many dumb things off and on the track, I can't take him seriously. In Black Skinhead for instance, which is his black pride anthem and he forces a line about how much sex he is getting in there...I just feel like there we're better choices. I don't mean to come off as they have nothing of value, but for something wanting to get into the genre for differences. Mainstream artists are NOT where to start. [/quote] Are you referring, perhaps, to "300 bitches, where the Trojans?" Again, it's fine to take it literally but considering it's prefaced by "I keep it 300 like the Romans" then the Trojan line has, again, dual meaning. It's fairly basic stuff at this point - especially for Kanye. Mainstream artists are the perfect place to start if someone is trying to get into the genre. Not every mainstream artist is worthwhile but someone will get a better scope of what makes a great rap album if they listen to To Pimp A Butterfly or The College Dropout than they would by starting with some indie rapper whose only ability is their speed or something. If you wanted someone to get into, say, metal, would you start them off with some black metal stuff or would you go for more 'mainstream' shit like I dunno....Metallica or something? It's the same thing here.