[@Fabricant451] If you wanted someone to get into, say, metal, would you start them off with some black metal stuff or would you go for more 'mainstream' shit like I dunno....Metallica or something? It's the same thing here. Absolutely not. So maybe we have different outlooks on music. But I'd go with non-harsh vocals and actual good metal. *jab at overrated band check* A shit load of stuff I could provide. That would make rock fans love it fine. And not heavy stuff even, by introducing them to wackier mixes of the metal genre. And it would absolutely not be mainstream. When I say metal is the most varied genre, that is not a joke or ignorance.