[quote=@SleepingSilence]I strongly disagree the using fuck a lot somehow becomes smarter if it's from the ghetto. XD[/quote] Not my point. Also, this has been covered many times over and I won’t get into it. But the music is [i]blunt[/i] for various different reasons. Original hip hop auteurs did not intend to glorify the life of the inner city, as much is clear from Tupac’s early body of work as well as Public Enemy and before them Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five. The point wasn’t that saying “fuck” or other expletives was intelligent because of the fact it was stated from the inner city but rather some of the most intelligent and artistic work that is [i]meaningful[/i] has come from hip hop musicians who have been blunt and liberal with their language. I’ve already mentioned Public Enemy, but there are many many others. It seems you read my sentence yet don’t actually comprehend the point I’m explaining, it’s really quite frustrating. [quote=@SleepingSilence]if you don't like it. So you must not get it and you shouldn't listen to it.[/quote] Again not my point. Hip hop is the [i]language[/i] of the inner city, the byproduct of lower class breaking out and expressing themselves. If a few words offend you, then hip hop [or punk rock, for that matter] is not the type of art you should try to appreciate as you already have convictions and ideals going in. If you are going into something with presumptions and biases, you shouldn’t waste your time because you are going to perceive it incorrectly and use individual ignorance as foundation for how you view music that the individual would not understand. To understand you do not elevate your prejudices on a piece of art, it is foolish to do so. [quote=@SleepingSilence]I would be interested to know who you're favorites are...better than arguing about one person neither person supposedly cares much for.[/quote] Would this be a valuable usage of my time or will it just turn into another back-and-forth and frustrate me furthermore? [quote=@SleepingSilence]I have given examples and REAL explanations for the most part.[/quote] Like when I countered your whole argument that Kendrick Lamar does not have technical ability [which you suggested by saying he's outright bad]? [hider][youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdNaZEzUmFc[/youtube][/hider] —or do you mean when both myself and Fabricant countered the point on elaborating on how Kendrick is a good storyteller and producer? Because that happened as well. We provided examples and explanations. Kendrick isn’t the most cerebral or even the most technical rapper, but he is not without his merits. This was the framework of Fabricant’s [and my own, to a lesser extent] argument; that Kendrick has a good amount of technicality, diction, storytelling ability, and compositional integrity.