[quote=@vancexentan] Yeah? Isn't that a given for pretty much any servant not with some stupidly powerful ridiculous ability in the fate's verse? I don't see what you're trying to argue here I know Jeanne isn't going to be winning entire battles against more than two servants on her own. All I'm saying is your focusing on the barrier phantasm too much. [/quote] What I was trying to do was quantify the barrier, When does it break? when should it Break? That's what I was trying to ascertain. Because after that barrier breaks, shes left with her sword and her skills. Weakened but certainly not out of the game.