[quote=@Arawak] I am contemplating being Oathkeepers or some radical group of that nature. I just think there are people severely overestimating the military capabilities and ideological projection capabilities of other countries here. The US is still military super power here. A humilating defeat trying to invade a country whose military philosophy was built on guerrila warfare from the days of Mao onward doesn't make the US military which has bases literally all over the world magically vanish. Blowing up a couple super carriers and satellites doesn't mean a country with a global military hegemony suddenly loses that edge. The worst case scenario is a loss of our military activity in East Asia due to being rebuffed by China. The US military is like 6-10x more expansive than the next largest military. The power balance is very lopsided... Intervening in the civil war of a super power would be a massive, massive gamble for any foreign force. Also does the US international military still carry out operations even if the domestic situaiton has collapsed? I mean, they are likely without their CiC to set an agenda but they're still likely out there. A military without a country and all that. [/quote] I should point out that the USA is NOT defunct. The Federal Government does still control a large portion of the military, and overseas forces still exist. There is technically still a war against China and North Korea, but it's mostly being fought by Japan since there isn't much left in the way of homeland support for American troops. Obviously, the government is trying to bring back as many troops as possible since the situation is severe enough that they might as well have been invaded (I mean, there ARE Chinese backed forces on the Gulf Coast). For the government, the problem is that they simply couldn't fight the rebellions with the loyal forces they had left on the continent. If the minds of humanity weren't being radically changed by the unseen force of the mysterious beings known as "Online Play-By-Post Roleplayers", then the government could have just mobilized the national guard and called reservists up if necessary (and China probably wouldn't have Kessler'd it up). Here, though, there's rampant desertion among those same forces. The objective of the government right now is to consolidate the loyal forces and get a pushback going before the rebels start to get solid control over their territories. I'd also like to ask everyone if they're willing to give up some territory to the feds, since we're filling up quicker than I expected and there isn't much room left for the poor fucks. [quote=@NecroKnight] [@Keyguyperson] When will this game be started? [/quote] Tomorrow or Monday. IC will be open around then, but I'll only post after Thursday because that's when I have my math final and if I don't get a B on that then I fail the class.