I slept. Then played Ff14. Anyway. Both systems have their merits. Under the current ruleset, however, I cannot accept [@Kratesis] character, on several grounds. Primarily, it not falling in line with the element scheme(unless it changed since I last looked at it), and have an unbreakable weapon that can cut through most anything. As far as preset abilities and the like, I offer this compromise. And yes, new folks, negotiations tend to be part of the Arena. How about, if [@Darth] is agreeable we keep the current system of players creating their own characters. Because it is part of the learning process, and we take Darth's idea of pre-made skills, and apply it to them. He can help structure a wide array of abilities to be simple, yet bring something unique to the table so everyone isn't doing all the same things with different elements.