I'll try to do this now. It'll be a draw. This turned into a shitfest I haven't seen since the time I fought a guy named Prodigy. Both of you likely know better. Beardforce, in my estimation, is metagaming and why anyone would face it willingly. The fact he can, by both the sheet and your own testimony raise his strength to impossible levels, with no drawbacks end with only: Knowledge of the sheet Seeing the person. The very definition of metagaming. You don't know anything about the character beforehand, or their capabilities, and Beardforce allows you to simply match it no matter what stages they have to go through to achieve their power and seems solely based on how strong you think they can be. As far as Nega, I can see your point but your hands aren't clean either. Yours is more of a outside variety. There was no need for this argument to contibue, I know some was part the peanut gallery fault, but calling them sheep didn't help. Any arguments that extend last the events of the thread in question, then things get real dirty. I suggest you two stay far away from each other. I do commend Doc for trying to explain the weaknesses in Gonad, and eventually apologizing as well. I think you both can be really good Arena fighters, though I probably won't ever face Gnad for a variety of reasons. I won't go much further than that, because this really isn't my fight. If either of you, [@Doc Doctor], [@Negatomsk] have any issues with any of this, my inbox is always open. In both my official capacity as Moderator and my unofficial capacity as Arena King. Sometime tomorrow this will be locked, so if either of you have anything civil to say to each other, you can.