[@Hekazu], it is a [url=https://www.roleplayerguild.com/rolls/2598]12[/url] with disadvantage, though I am still at a loss how we're not at advantage from such an approach. Honestly, I wouldn't have even bothered with this plan, going all the way around, if we hadn't had it; we would have been better off just fighting down the middle. As for more discussions, I think we've wasted too much time with that and too little input in reply as a whole. Either this will work or it will not.