[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] That the implications of politics are serious, that was my position all along, like I said I probably didn't specify enough, but [b]that's the claim you cant argue against[/b]. [/quote] Why not? I'm curious here as I feel I can argue against (or for) any claim I want. The moon is made of blue cheese? No problem. The President is a reptile in a human suit? Sure thing. True communism has never been tried? You got it lol. What makes this particular claim so special that I [b]cannot [/b]argue against it?