[@The Harbinger of Ferocity] [quote]In fact, I do actively support the concept of having both static and randomized security check points[/quote] What, like, everywhere? Holy fuck. [quote]The United States should be setting the trend for fostering an environment of stability, safety, security and standards.[/quote] We already do. If we go any further, we start strangling out the essence of a free society. [quote]Terrorism in the United States is not succeeding overtly, but it doesn't need to as history has shown us time and time again; an attack only needs to happen - it needn't be another 9/11 - it just needs to elevate the public perception, get into the media and provoke a government response. The fact that Islamophobe is thrown out as a slur now is a tell tale sign of that; people are legitimately wary of the Muslim population. Does that mean every Muslim is a terrorist? No, not at all and anyone who believes so is unbecoming of decency to themselves and others.[/quote] Didn't you want an overt government response though? I'm not kicking up shit, I just feel like I don't quite understand your primary thesis. What I mean is, if the terrorists want the public to be wary of Islam and and the government to subvert certain rights and comforts in exchange for safety, than isn't the subversion of those rights and the wariness of Islam a surrender to terrorism? [quote] I sincerely doubt Western civilization will bow as a whole to it and convert, but it is and will continue to suffer damage it could otherwise avoid.[/quote] Sure, the Islam/West tension is damaging, I absolutely agree. But history is a long list of struggles, that's not new. We need to be careful in what rights we are willing to give up in order to defelct this short term damage. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising to see the Ben Franklin quote trotted out, but since it is an American tradition to cram it into any for of this conversation, here it is; "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.". [quote]Moving on to the next topic, I do not believe you are likely to see a legitimate uprising of Alt-Right or "Alt-Right" politically that will have or act on nationalist motives sufficient enough to provoke international incidents. In part because they have not the numbers or the platform, but also because the way the American political field is stratified. What I believe we will see, at least with the United States, is a comparatively strong - to compare it with the recent past of the more left leaning - center-right and actual right push across all boards.[/quote] That would be expected in this swing of the pendulum. That being said, two things A: American politics since 1980 has been in a right-leaning phase economically and geo-politically speaking. You put any of those supposedly left-leaning candidates into the 1940's and, though their social politics would be radically left-wing, their economic politics would be relatively standard for the Democrats. B: A right wing push would put the Alt-Right in a comfortable position in the overton window. If the right wing is undergoing another renaissance, in a period where the left hasn't had a renaissance to balance the scales, then we can presume that the Alt-Right might just become the center-right in a few decades. [quote]Among the left there seems to be certain aspects they generally agree on enough to collaborate on as a singular political unit.[/quote] I disagree entirely. The right tends to be better at organizing disparate groups into cohesive political unit, hence why the Republicans do so well despite having smaller membership. As the old saying goes, "The Right falls in line, the Left falls in love." All you gotta do to get right wing votes is have the big R stamped next to your name, but the left rebels against the democrats pretty much consistently if they don't get candidates of their preference. Hell, me included. [quote]Alt-Right and the "Alt-Right" have, in contrast, at minimum demonstrated basic, entry-level small unit tactics and trigger discipline, as well as a bias against random acts of violence against civilian population and structure.[/quote] So what you are concerned with is disorganized leftist tactics might inspire the right wing to go full paramilitary? Okay, that would be a major disaster, I really hope they don't do that. If we somehow do end up with right wing death squads... it's been nice knowing you all, I guess. [quote]American citizens should always be wary of people they are not familiar to regardless of who they are for their own safety and should foster an environment of vigilance and a culture of watchfulness. [/quote] Stranger danger lol. [quote]I would say walking out on anyone during a speech, presentation or ceremony is disrespectful. [/quote] Eh, people gotta be allowed to protest [i]some way[/i]. Better to walk out than to go all "Don't taze me bro"