[quote=@Penny]Do you really think Trump's movement is pro immigrant?[/quote]

Well I hate the whole "pro/anti" newspeak conversation -- but yeah. CNN plays, you know, "We wanna build a big, beautiful wall," but they clip out the part right after where he adds "with a BIG BEAUTIFUL DOOR IN IT." We want borders, and we want legal immigration. We want folks like you here, basically. We can talk about all the ways illegal immigration hurts legal immigrants, if you like, that's probably a conversation worth having -- it'll have to wait until after work though (I'm also gonna get a bit brief here, I'm in a rush)

[quote]Make America Great Again is a clear statement that things went wrong when we got all multicultural and inclusive and we need to go back to a simpler vision.[/quote]

whoa whoa whoa whoa. You don't...... you don't think maybe you're reading into that a bit? 

[quote]All of that inflames the passions of his base in a way that both gets him votes and encourages them to act in a way which makes life scarier for people like me.[/quote]

The people who won him the election are the same people who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. We're not closet-racist sleeper cells. You don't need to be afraid of us and I am furious at whoever has poisoned you to be afraid of us. 

[quote]Well if I had a cure for racism or a way to jump start economic growth so no one felt desperate and alienated id be receiving my Nobel Prize right now.

Voting for candidates who don't base their campaigns on groundless fear tactics would be a good start but I've given up on trying to understand voting patterns.
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Speaking of who's running fear tactics, which of the two of us is afraid?