[quote=@The Elvenqueen] I was gonna stay out of this since it feels a bit like arguing with a brick wall here but I feel like I have a couple of things to say on this section specifically. (I honestly struggled to understand what you were saying for some of it, but this is what I did understand and take from it) Where, [i]anywhere [/i] was it mentioned by any of us who were talking about samples that said sample posts had to be novel-perfect writing? [b]Nowhere[/b]. Sure, good grammar is great and it helps people to understand you better but not everybody is perfect. People write posts while they're tired, they miss mistakes and post them and don't realise it till the day after. People write posts on their phones and miss autocorrect fails that they didn't see the first time (and believe me, I have had it happen to me from both sides, where autocorrect has made such a glorious fuck up that I've had to [i]ask[/i] a partner what the heck it was supposed to mean (and had partners ask me the same) because it was just that bad that it couldn't be figured out alone XD (Using "you" as in the general/"royal" you here, BTW. So if you're going to choose to get offended by it then that's on you.) Sample posts give an example of your writing as is, as you would write IC, rather than your ability to just regurgitate text into a flowery/purple prosey 3-page long CS that really isn't always necessary for the actual plot of the RP. I, personally, as a partner, player and a GM (although I tend to stick to 1x1 mostly nowadays since I don't have the time to manage a group) much prefer either a short CS that covers the basics to give people a feel for the character, or literally to give just the most basic information on a character like their name, age, gender and a brief appearance/personality traits and then let the rest be revealed ad lib in the IC, and maybe create more detailed sheets later [i]should it feel necessary for information management[/i] I don't care how fancy a CS is. I care about how your writing style "feels" to read and how well you portray the character you set out to play. I don't care about grammar mistakes (within reason. If I can't understand a single word typed then yes there will be an issue there), a few mistakes or minor issues with grammar are not grounds for me to not to accept somebody for a role play request, what I am interested in is whether they can portray a character that is interesting, fun, and believable for the setting of the RP. As for "if you can't figure out if they can write if they present you with ten paragraphs of backstory", they could be ten paragraphs of complete garbage that doesn't actually make sense. As said before by many people, quantity=/=quality. I would much rather have a short thousand words post that really shows the person can portray the character in the roleplay's timeline than ten paragraphs of purple prose and repeated points. EDIT: case in point, I just had to correct a few autocorrect fails in this very post..does that make me a bad RPer or a bad writer? Absolutely not. Nobody was implying that, ever. [/quote] I wasn't arguing, I made an opinion that someone took personally, wrongfully asserted was an attack instead of how I view it. And now 8 people are telling me how my opinion is wrong and their's is right. With seemingly no self awareness to be seen. It shouldn't feel like a brick wall, when there's no reason to debate in the first place. It's simply two different viewpoints on how they've experienced sample posting in their roleplaying. I [b]wasn't[/b] arguing that anyone or you were making that statement, I argued I've dealt with people that have done just that. <.< And what's the point of a test, if there is no failing that test? How many mistakes will it take before you'd not accept someone's writing? If it's so lax that a 3rd grader could probably pass fine, then why even waste your time and the players? My concern is people only will try on that test, and nowhere else. Making it pointless, in my eye. You clearly didn't understand it, because it's putting more blind assumptions on the table. This (clearly quickly thrown out) entire statement is reaching to a conclusion, I wasn't making. It's a touch ironic you have to copy my offense comment, when everyone else seems to be reacting emotionally. I'm just baffled at the point...