[@Infamous Empath] Less so when they have to put themselves through torture LOL, I mean it is a suuure way to motivate them to try Rp-ing as themselves.

Anyway, have you ever read Lucifer Morningstar? There was a tortured soul in that series who rose above the others, tricked and killed other demons and became a count with his own army of demon forces. He even tricked Amenadiel in his fight against Lucifer which resulted in Amenadiel's demise.