[quote=@DarkwolfX37] Dude he's a super-christian. Arguing from a natural perspective will get you literally nowhere. Truer words might never have been spoken. I can literally FEEL the crash I'm going to have. I'm either going to have the deepest sleep of my life or sleep for 3 minute and not need to again for sixteen years. [/quote] No, it'll get you somewhere. I can live with someone taking the naturalistic approach, but I will demand that it be on an all or nothing level. Enjoy that. I'll be here.