[@Bishop]

I said that.
Rights also don't exist.
This entire first paragraph is a restatement of

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Perhaps you wish to argue that in the same way we only perceive beauty as real because we agree it is as a society, we perceive murder as "evil," and therefore we agree that people should be punished for it. However, in doing so, you inadvertently admit that the position held by society is illogical. Under this perspective, the objectively superior societal structure (in terms of logical foundation) is anarchy, in which the only consequence for action or inaction is what others decide to execute.
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You just admitted to this, which is a fine position to take, but it also requires accepting the fact that an anarchy is an ideal society because people determine for themselves the cost of their own actions and execute responses accordingly. You keep throwing abstract terms out there such as "coexist," when these are totally meaningless when broken down into concrete components. It is not possible to construct a logical argument without breaking down a concept into its parts.

I disagree with this paragraph. Beauty can be taught as well; studies into neurological development show that most of what we perceive in a subjective manner is generated and established well into youth. Our idea of beauty and other abstract concepts is directly correlated to our experiences in the past and how we grew up. In the same way you can reject the idea of beauty, you can reject the idea of morality. If I grew up being taught that watching movies was evil, I very well could decide when I was older that I disagreed with that and make my own decision regarding the ethics of doing so. Every subjective concept is the exact same as any other, a structure formed uniquely by the human mind and the way it perceives reality around it, be it morality, beauty, fun, music, etc. You admit that they do not exist on a physical level but assign it some abstract value when, under your assumptions, it is not even real on some abstract level because all it is comprised of is neurons firing in specific ways that results in behavior that may be [i]perceived[/i] as similar to the behavior of other individuals who assign the term "moral" to it. But in all, there is no foundation for the belief that the concept is real on any level or any reason any human should follow what is defined as moral guidelines. In fact, unless there is some real, tangible or even intangible foundation for defining exactly what morality is, there is no basis for the claim that it exists in the first place.

I never equated morality to laws; read more closely. I stated that having laws [i]at all[/i] is illogical under the assumption that morality doesn't exist (or exists "subjectively," if you insist that it is possible) and that the logical conclusion is that an ideal society is an anarchy.

The problem is that you define "exist" as "what humans perceive as real," which is purely false. A schizophrenic may [i]perceive[/i] an elephant to exist even if there is none in the room. The fact of the matter is that our perceptions and definitions do not define what reality is and no matter what we choose to believe, [i]something that does not have a foundation in reality doesn't have any justification for its existence.[/i] Unless you have [i]evidence[/i] that morality, beauty, or any other abstract concept exists beyond collections of people agreeing that it does, there is not a basis for the claim that any of them are real. A concept that does not extend beyond the brain is not real, and even if large collections of people claim that their perception of a concept is real, unless there is something that backs up their claim, they are incorrect. The closest to real any of these are to "real" is an agreement in mankind's perception that they are, which is totally meaningless and has no impact on the physical world around us. If you want to claim that morality, art, beauty, or any other abstract concept is "real" in the collective human perception, sure, have at it. But that has no impact on the logical progression of anything because they are isolated, irrelevant, and have no bearing on the course the world around us takes.