[@Bishop] You miss that I also qualified that statement. It only impacts the world [i]through humans[/i], and not directly. Anything "real" in the sense that I'm using it has a direct impact on physical reality, humans present or otherwise. Other than the fact that you [i]believe[/i] you would be "worse off" in an anarchy (despite the lack of data), that doesn't impact the logic of the system as a whole. You're viewing it on an individual level, which has no bearing on what system is the most logical to implement, because that is on a collective level. I even mentioned before that it's totally possible for you to personally not desire anarchy, but that doesn't change that for aforementioned reasons, it is still the most logical system (even if it perhaps isn't logical to desire on a person level e.g. An emperor). I know several beings who would want that, but that's not relevant. I also don't claim that animals operate based on logic. Rather, logic operates on its own; anarchy is the "default state" of a society, just like in the animal kingdom, because it [i]doesn't[/i] require abstract and undefinable concepts—there is no consensus, no assumptions, no abstractions, just the raw and unfiltered structure of the world. In fact, the idea that animals can't operate on logic [i]advances[/i] this argument because it shows that it is standalone, independent of thought (as is required of logic). You're conflating the idea of human desire and logic itself, which exists independent of humans. Logic operates on its own and isn't impacted by anything any of us think. I would also like to point out that you are mistaken on the details of anarchy. Anarchy is a system based on self-preservation. People can make agreements, deals, or anything else even without being the fittest as long as they contribute. Farmer Jim can hire brute Tom to guard him if he's able to trade. It's a mutual system of consent for every human involved. I don't claim that every naturalist should desire anarchy, nor do I claim that every naturalist should believe anything in particular. Instead, I sought to prove that on a purely logical level, anarchy is the most optimal system of all. Even if no human desired it, that wouldn't change that it is the naturalistically superior system.