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[@Meta] That where I wanna point out that you're wrong. You explicitly state that morality and abstract feelings "has no impact on the logical progression of anything because they are isolated, irrelevant, and [b]have no bearing on the course the world around us takes.[/b]"

But the world revolves around those abstract feelings and ideas. One CEO has the brilliant idea to harvest a whole forest in order to fulfill his selfish desire for greater material profit. All these actions are fueled by abstracts feelings and wanting. You can;t say that they have no effect whatsoever on the world around us.

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I'm sorry but isn't it more logical to live a long and safe life than to die abruptly? Order is logical, anarchy and chaos are illogical.

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... don't know how to tackle this.
So firstly, animals also have no logic. They function purely on instinct. So you comparing the animal kingdom and how the animals are ruled by anarchy, to humans, basically means that only human animals want anarchy. Anarchy is survival of the fittest, it isn't based on logic at all, it is based purely on raw strength and the individual power to survive without anyone but yourself protecting you. Which logical being would want that?
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You two seem to be having fun.