[@Vilageidiotx] I'm not going to watch the video because it combines two of the worse things in the world - vlogging and pundits. The party who represents the majority of American interests wins. "They would just compete for the cities" thing is a fallacy. There's the problem, and makes my point of discussion things moot. I can't recommend you a goddamn book to read...videos are the best and easiest way to express a point. Especially when you yourself had a heart attack when I typed too much stuff. Well how can one remove thousand of words of typing? A video. But I digress. The majority has never gotten what it's wanted. The majority of people voted proposition 8 in the every/or nearly every state and yet that was completely overruled and changed. Why? Because we "party that represents" has never actually been the reason the majority of people vote. Somebody mentioned "i vote democrats because that party 'pretends' to care and panders to me." and that in a nutshell capitulates, just how the masses actually vote. I don't feel like getting that deep into it but that's been their mindset for decades. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2088gl/president_lbj_ill_have_those_ns_voting_democratic/ President B. Lyndon Johnson: 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years' "We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.” https://www.liveaction.org/news/7-shocking-quotes-by-planned-parenthoods-founder/ Abortion/Planned Parenthood founder, Margaret Sanger. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/ https://theundefeated.com/features/black-voters-are-so-loyal-that-their-issues-get-ignored/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/01/black-women-are-obamas-most-loyal-voters-and-his-most-ignored-constituency/ Pandering has worked for forever, so why stop now? And I already know debating is pointless. This is reality. https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/erbe/2008/11/07/blacks-are-more-socially-conservative-than-barack-obama ".an overwhelming number—70 percent—of black voters in California...voted for Proposition 8 and helped secure its passage," Most of the black community, people in the ghetto's especially. Are probably the most socially conservative demographic...all they've need was the untrue stigma that republicans are racist and evil. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwqhoVIh65k[/youtube] But I know you won't watch. So I'll leave it there by knowing arguing against the pandering at this point is intellectually dishonest and not worth debating over. And No, because the popular vote has never been a thing. And no, the city thing is not a fallacy. If we only did a popular vote, they WOULD pander to cities. Because they could promise that city endless benefits, and make other states pay for them. Why wouldn't they do that? I won't argue the electoral college is perfect or flawless, but if you are arguing to remove it entirely for a popular vote. I reject that ideal for a very good reason. Like you've done before and I will correct you again. We aren't a democracy. That is a clear distinction needed to be made. We do not get things done by mob rule and presidents have not all been elected 'because of representation of beliefs' because like I said, many people don't even know who believes what. And it's not just kids and teens either. There's no way I can convince you that the electoral college is needed, if I can't even provide evidence that you'll look at. So what's the point? Probably is none.