[quote=@Penny] I get that the point of the system is to make it less democratic, partly because there was some merit to it. I just think its reasonable to question whether it becomes unreasonable to give a voter from Montana so much more impact than one from New York. Id rather see more lower case D democracy than less. It will be interesting to see what the demographics look like a hundred years from now will we have rotten borough style states? Because there is no way the system will change, why would the three people who live in Wyoming sign off on a constitutional amendment that would make their vote less important. [/quote] To be perfectly honest [s]and mildly judging[/s], the fact that California literally is a disaster zone in every way and is beyond bankrupt and gives whoever they decide a 3rd of what they need to win, one goddamn state, is one third of their vote. And it's always blue...because of the few big cities (when the map is mostly red.) People telling me, how under valued they just because they have 2 million or more people who can't legally vote doing so, doesn't have the power that a state that has 2 votes and means almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, hurts with irony. And who the hell wants New York, the "you're too stupid to feed yourself" mayor make decisions about any other state. I digress. I don't really know how else to describe that the electoral college was all fine when it favored the other side. I think even my brother mildly woke up to all temper tantrums and stupid behavior coming from his side. Hypocrites everywhere and despite people pretending its a fringe, it's still constantly happening... But to put it simply, the "popular vote" should remain utterly irrelevant.