[quote=@Penny]In the reality of my life, if you are promoting homophobia, misogyny or whatever, you are just gone, plain and simple. I don't need to dignify these 'ideas' with my consideration. But what about second order effects. What if you vote for a candidate that advocates these positions? Even if you didn't vote for them because of their homophobia, you still bear a measure of responsibility for their actions if they are elected. Why am I giving you a pass because you expressed the opinion through the ballot rather than spouting it to me personally? [/quote] Bear in mind: if you apply that standard, Bill Clinton raped (at least) three women, not counting his consensual womanizing, and he pulled in 99.72% of the democrat caucus for reelection. So like...... yeah....... about that whole misogyny bit, you, uh..... The takeaway here is, you've met (I assume) loads and loads and loads of Clinton fans who are not, themselves, rapists and womanizers. Which ought to put the nail in the coffin -- this concept that you should shun people because some asshole in DC did something you don't like is ridiculously unfair.