[quote=@mdk] Bear in mind: if you apply that standard, Bill Clinton raped (at least) three women, not counting his consensual womanizing, and he pulled in 99.72% of the democrat caucus for reelection. So like...... yeah....... about that whole misogyny bit, you, uh..... The takeaway here is, you've met (I assume) loads and loads and loads of Clinton fans who are not, themselves, rapists and womanizers. Which ought to put the nail in the coffin -- this concept that you should shun people because some asshole in DC did something you don't like is ridiculously unfair. [/quote] If that is true and people voted for him after coming into possession of that information then they absolutely DO bear some of the responsibility. A principle isn't a principle if you apply it selectively. I don't know anything about the particulars of the Clinton case as it was before I came the USA. If people genuinely believe he is a rapist and still voted for him then that is morally wrong.