[quote=@The Harbinger of Ferocity] Humanity without competition among itself is a recipe for disaster. [/quote] Fortunately, there's no such thing as humanity without competition. [quote=@Penny]If you vote for Clinton you have to accept her moral obligations. Perhaps the continuation of failing foreign policy in Syria, probably her failure to enforce tax reforms ect. If you vote for Trump you have to accept his moral obligations. Splitting up families with illegal immigrants, worsening an already substandard healthcare situation or whatever else he does.[/quote] And this is where I'll play the maturity card again.... Holding that someone is morally inferior because they don't do things your way is childish. Disagreement among children produces conflict; disagreement among adults produces....... well, shit, bigger conflict I guess, [i]but it's not supposed to.[/i]