[quote=@Penny]
[@mdk] I guess it depends how far back you want to trace the problem. Creating a huge power vacuum in Iraq and creating a cockpit for Saudi v Iran? Toppling Saddam, Supporting the Saudis, deposing the Shaw, backing the Mujahadeen against the Soviets, The Soviets going into Afganistan Deposing the Shaw, British Imperial policy, Allied Intervention in the Russian Civil War and on and on.

I don't want to characterize all these as mistakes made by Americans, or Brits or whomever but the chains of historical incidence are always long.
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And Grrk took Unnkkk the Caveman's rock, which ultimately explains everything. [i]Islamic State in Syria[/i] is (a) an Islamic organization, (b) a modern political entity (state), and (c) a Syria product, and they [url=https://pics.me.me/we-will-defeat-america-by-using-he-weakness-of-liberal-2811950.png]are using the EU's complacency to spread.[/url] These are facts.
 [url=http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2017/04/obamas_red_line_failure_brough.html]They are also a product of complacency and non-intervention.[/url] -- that's analysis, but it's not a reach. This crisis is not the fault of the political left, but the political left allowed it to happen and the political left will never be able to stop it [url=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/17/terrorist-attacks-stop-all-impossible-europol-chief](they say so themselves)[/url]