[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] What's wrong with it: lack of freedom. In this system you must produce something of value. I don't think it can work if you let everyone seek their dreams and still get the rashen of money/food, so that means you have to deal with whatever work the government is okay with you doing.[/quote] Well this actually sounds more like another system I can think of that starts with a 'C.' [quote=@Dynamo Frokane]Lack of financial hierarchy. Oh man, isn't that the point though? Well yeah, hierarchy sucks in some ways, but it's kind of integral to human sociaty. Without it, you will have some other form of hierarchy. But here's the big thing, the interesting things throughout history have usually been created by rich people who could spend their time on art. Without a upper class, everyone needs to spend their time working. This also creates a sociaty that would be fundementally non diverse. As everyone would be living a similar lifestyle.[/quote] Art's usually created by poor people though. Rich people buy and appropriate that art-- given more free time, creative people will tend to lean toward creative pursuits, and with more financial security for more people, I think we'll have a society with more creative people. [quote=@Dynamo Frokane]Lack of progress. For the individual, progressing in life and seeking self actualization is the journey. I believe a lack of feeling of progress to our lives would leave us depressed.[/quote] You associate progress with the accumulation of monetary wealth? Why? 🤔 🤔 🤔 [quote=@Dynamo Frokane]For me to feel as though my view is changed, I need to be convinced that the system can work as a whole, not just that I'm wrong about one of my issues with it. Change my view, not just my understanding of how it works.[/quote] Well, I mean I think Dinh already mentioned Catalonia so... [quote=@Andreyich]The problem with it is that it never worked, never will and it's bloody retarded. Oh wait but I'm sure all of that is not real communism and we should just. try. again.[/quote] But it does work-- it just so happens that being a new country, surrounded by capitalist enemies who want to see you fail because they're full of bougie pigs, is not good for longevity. A lot of systems of communism don't really have internal flaws (unless you want to look at say, Maoism, for example-- which had garbage theory-- or Stalinism-- which had the problem of literally daddy Stalin). You say this like the problem isn't, as always, with capitalism. [quote=@Andreyich]retarded[/quote] Eris, what is this? 2007?