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[@Andreyich] Not to get too much into it. (and because google seems to be purposefully fucking with me.) But the poor in capitalist countries don't -stay- poor. And they also get richer too. :/

The 1% isn't stagnant, it moves all the time.

And we aren't exactly a perfect free market (our healthcare for instance.) and most people that describe "crony capitalism" is basically corporatism.

I also hate this argument in a way, because I was poor once. But America's poor are FAR better off than the rest of the free world. :/ (So yea-that 'communist' argument is FOS, on top of being kind of funny/ironic.)

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/how-poor-are-americas-poor-examining-the-plague-poverty-america

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/21/bernies-poverty-delusion-americas-poor-are-richer-than-europes-middle-class/

There's more to it than that, sure. But like I said, too lazy to go further.
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Aye that's certainly true. The poor of capitalist countries are much better off than average person of communist countries. Nevertheless, social mobility is still very hard, and the American dream really is more or less unacheivable. Although, I suppose in communism social mobility is nonexistent too, since everyone is equally poor. 

Nevertheless, I don't have much issue with corporatism if it includes dirigism; a government should control corporations, not vice versa. I agree your poor are far better off then the poor of elsewhere but once again, from rags to riches is a fairy tale. Those who eat shit will sadly have to east shit for the most of their lives. I don't think capitalism is completely worthless as an idea I just think it should be open to critique, which I am sure you agree on.